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Last edited by stroke; 03-12-2024, 12:10 PM.
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Shelton vs Sinner could be a barn burner. I doubt that Ben is ready to end the hottest streak in tennis but, Hey, with his serve he's always got a puncher's chance.
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Sorry, posted the Djoko upset in real time BUT in the wrong thread. Could not read and click the microscopic forum links on my phone.
Meanwhile, here' a partial line score.
Twenty-year-old Italian Luca Nardi tore up the script becoming, at 123 in the world, the lowest ranked player ever to beat Djokovic in a big tournament, aka Masters 1000 or a Major, 6-4, 3-6, 6-3. With most everyone expecting a patented Djokovic close out, Nardi hit 16 winners in the final set to only two (2) by the Serb, sealing the match out with his sixth ace.
ATP: Nardi wriggled out of 0/30 on his own serve to consolidate what proved to be the decisive break. "I don't know [how I held my nerve]," he said of the tense finish. "I think it is a miracle, because I am a 20-year-old guy, 100 in the world {Actually, 123}, and beating Novak. It's crazy."
If you're looking for reasons - From Fetterman at The Athletic: "“I made some really terrible unforced errors. Just quite defensive tennis and, you know, not much on the ball in the third, and that’s it.” Djokovic wasn’t wrong. So many times he has corralled a player like Nardi early on, like a cowboy throwing a rope around the neck of a wild horse, and steered him around the court all match long. Monday night, he barely made Nardi move on many points, allowing him to stand his ground in the middle of the court and whale away, sending Djokovic chasing balls that bounced in, then shot off the court. When Djokovic did try to move Nardi around, he missed his targets."
I'd add that historically, Djokovic has had more trouble in the wind than most of his near-peers. Serve misses its spots just enough and he lets up on the forehand IMHO.
Combine Djokovic's self-immolation with the withdrawal of Rafa and the top half of the draw is opened up. What will happen? Ruud is the top seed in the quarter, but hey we could have Monfils in the final. Wouldn't that be cool? Or maybe an all Italian Gen Z final with the lucky loser staying lucky all the way to meeting Jannik Sinner. Everyone loves a Cinderella or Cinderefella story.
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Originally posted by stroke View PostLaheka, who clearly goes to the the Fucsovic school of fitness, pretty much routines an out of sorts/no answers Tsitsipas.
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Laheka, who clearly goes to the the Fucsovic school of fitness, pretty much routines an out of sorts/no answers Tsitsipas.
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Originally posted by stotty View PostRuud takes the first set 6-2 against Arthur Fils. They showed a slow motion clip of Fils hitting a forehand; his grips seems very extreme.
Ruud just goes to work playing the percentages; solid. The sort of stuff that wins matches.
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Here's a compilation by ATP/TDI of the best strokes on Sunday, as measured by "highest quality", using the ATP's combo of speed, spin, location and other mysterious ingredients like wolf's bane and eye of newt.
Sinner = Best forehand
Zverev = Serve
Alcaraz = Backhand
Maroszan = Return
I plead guilty to not knowing a hoot about Maroszan but per Wiki he's 24 yo, French and ranked 57
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Ruud takes the first set 6-2 against Arthur Fils. They showed a slow motion clip of Fils hitting a forehand; his grips seems very extreme.
Ruud just goes to work playing the percentages; solid. The sort of stuff that wins matches.
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A few interesting results, some with interesting consequences.
Ghost of 'slams past, Gael Monfils takes our Cam Norrie in three. Kudos old dude. Wins one more and he can face Djokovic for the chance to trim their 1-20 H2H a bit <g>. Ruud-Fils on court as I type for the right to face Gael. Highest ranked player Djokovic can play in the quarters is Ruud, who he has a 5-0 record against. Why doesn't TPN's forum support the cupcake emoji?
Ben Shelton meets Jannik Sinner in R16, presumably tomorrow.. Damn! I'd hoped to see both when I got down there for the quarters the draw is denying me. A match where I want both players to win. And both are playing well, giving Ben only a puncher's chance. Looking ahead, I'd forgotten that Tsitsipas is 5-3 vs Sinner - including winning barnburner at the Australian Open in 2023 64 64 36 46 63.
WTA
Mom Shoot-Out. Woz meets Angie , presumably Tuesday, in the battle of the returning mothers.
And Osaka is one win again from meeting Coco Gauff, which will push the buzz meters into red
Second quarter women's draw has "opened up", which I believe is the cliche' about actually getting its top lopped off. And where did Jasmine Paolini come from this year? Diminutive 28 year old Italian is up to13 making her the highest ranked player in the second quarter branch. Paolini won Dubai, taking out Rybakina, Kalinskaya, Sakkari, Fernandez and more. Beat Kerber at United Cup. Better to be a late bloomer than to never bloom atall.
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Hear Sabalenka's comeback was something but I some how missed that match.
She must be one of the best, clutch players on tour. How many times has she faced eminent eviction and kept on going? Not to mention setting tour records for double faults, then calmly getting back up and hitting a great second to win a 'Slam. And another 'Slam.
Info in case you're interested.
Saby was down 4 match points to upstart, former NCAA champ Peyton Stearns (who had one solitary WTA win for the year coming in) yet won 6-7(7), 6-2, 7-6(6)
“She said at the net, “I actually had you,’” Sabalenka said. “She was right. I was just a little bit lucky probably to get this win.”
After Sabalenka saved the four match points in the third set to even the score, Stearns went up a break to take a 6-5 lead with an opportunity to serve out the match. But even playing with a sore left ankle and a limp, Sabalenka wasn’t ready to call it quits.
And searching ... Yes, YT has 5:37 min of highlights:
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Sunday's results had some intrigue:
Ben Shelton keeps blasting along. Took the long, hard way -- Ben earned 10 BPs but only converted one of them, and both players won an identical 111 points .. ., so Ben needed a pair of tiebreaks and 2:43 to top Francisco Cerdunolo and his big forehand. Still trying to figure out Ben's serve. He won 79% of his first save points but since Cerndunolo got more in he won more of his first serve points than Ben by a lot -- 85 pts to 62 pts.
Jannik Sinner keeps on cruise control. He averaged -- that's averaged -- 86 MPH on his forehand for the first set, won 3 and 4 over Struff.
Stef Tsitsipas in straights over Tiafoe. Stef looks a lot more comfortable with his first serve than he did in Mexico. Getting used to his new, trendy pinpoint or is his back improving? Certainly moved well and inside-in forehand remains deadly.
Woz won in 3 sets over upstart Katie Volynets. Seems like half the WTA players have the same large, B&W panel dresses coupled with blond highlights. They should have their names on the back of their jersey's like NBA players.
Top ATP Forehands Last 52 Weeks
From ATP/TDI via Tennis TV. Over last several months Sinner has crept up to 9.0 a statistical tie with Djokovic for the highest "quality" forehand by whatever statistical algorithm TDI has. I'm a tad surprised that Medvedev's ranks a smidge above such have hitters as Rublev, Tstisipas, and Ruud. Two that don't get enough credit are Grigor Dimitrov (4) and RBA (7).
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Several matches worth checking out today; Monday:
Caspar Ruud vs Arthur Fils. Only time they met, Fils beat Ruud in straight sets in Hamburg.
Medvedev vs Seb Korda. Is Seb finally getting his A game back long after his Aussie wrist injury a year ago?
Musetti vs Rune a contrast in styles.
Today's OoP
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Gael Monfils upsets Hurckaz turning Djokovic's quarter from a cupcake to a full-fledged cake with candles!
Djokovic plays a lucky loser in the third round and can't meet anybody in the top 8 before the semi.
Seyboth Wild upsets Khachanov getting the qualifier into the third round.
Meanwhile, on the WTA side:
Sabalenka narrowly avoided an upset by Peyton Stearns, who recently left college and has only 1 win on tour this year, with Aryna needing a 3rd set tiebreak. Next up for the 2-time Aussie champ, Emma Raducanu (WC).
Meanwhile, Aussie finalist Qinwen Zheng was upset by Yue Yuan in straight sets.
Today's OoP
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Rune gets a walkover vs Raonic. Guy just can't stay healthy. Shame.
Gauff wins a dogfight with Burel in a third set tiebreaker.
Amusingly, lucky loser Luca Nardi entered straight into the second round, since he stepped in for a seed, Tomas Etcheverry, and got his bye in the first round. That means if Nardi lost in the qualifiers but would still get at least $72,500 plus whatever he got in qualifiers just for stepping on court even if he doesn't win a single point. Heck, I could do that. Maybe. Instead, Nardi is into the third vs Zhang.
Arthur Fils takes out Fokina in straight sets. Great start for that French teen.
Ruh-Roh Jessica Pegula down a set and a break to Blinkova in the 2nd round.
Close one by our Tour Portrait woman for March, Shanider, split sets with number 9 seed Sakkari, both with identical 72 points at this moment. That would be a great upset for the teenager college player.
Another upset: In a battle of 21 year olds, the less-heralded Diane Parry takes out number 29 seed Leylah Fernandez in 3.
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