Suggestion about Filming Yourself and Filming Professionals

[lukman41985]

No doubt many players could work on their technique. But how many tinker because something doesn't look right? Or doesn't look just like their favorite player?

How about this: who cares what it looks like as long as the ball is doing what you want it to be doing! Enough with the aesthetics!

My suggestion: low angle rear view filming. Let's see what the ball is doing. Here are 3 perfect examples:

http://www.tennisplayer.net/members/strokearchive/pro_men/rogerfederer/rogerfederer_backhand/rogerfederer_bh_center/rogerfederer_bh_center.html?FedererBHCenterDowntheLineCourtLevelRearTight.mov

http://www.tennisplayer.net/members/strokearchive/pro_men/andreagassi/aa_forehand/aa_fh_inside_in/aa_fh_inside_in.html?AAFHInsideInCourtLevelRear2.mov

http://www.tennisplayer.net/members/strokearchive/pro_men/marat_safin/ms_backhand/ms_bh_wide/ms_bh_wide.html?MSBHWideClosedStanceCourtLevelRear2.mov

Then the commentary, insights, and critiques from others is something more than beauty contest judgements.

The ball doesn't know what your strokes look like, it only knows the physics. Do whatever you have to do to produce good "impact".

[uspta146749877]

Some trivial points by julian

No doubt many players could work on their technique. But how many tinker because something doesn't look right? Or doesn't look just like their favorite player?

How about this: who cares what it looks like as long as the ball is doing what you want it to be doing! Enough with the aesthetics!

My suggestion: low angle rear view filming. Let's see what the ball is doing. Here are 3 perfect examples:

http://www.tennisplayer.net/members/strokearchive/pro_men/rogerfederer/rogerfederer_backhand/rogerfederer_bh_center/rogerfederer_bh_center.html?FedererBHCenterDowntheLineCourtLevelRearTight.mov

http://www.tennisplayer.net/members/strokearchive/pro_men/andreagassi/aa_forehand/aa_fh_inside_in/aa_fh_inside_in.html?AAFHInsideInCourtLevelRear2.mov

http://www.tennisplayer.net/members/strokearchive/pro_men/marat_safin/ms_backhand/ms_bh_wide/ms_bh_wide.html?MSBHWideClosedStanceCourtLevelRear2.mov

Then the commentary, insights, and critiques from others is something more than beauty contest judgements.

The ball doesn't know what your strokes look like, it only knows the physics. Do whatever you have to do to produce good "impact".

Hi,
there is much more than beauty contest judgements.
there are four very obvious points:
1.majority of rules of biomechanics should be followed-
see Duane Knudson "Biomechanical Principles of Tennis Technique"-
see however item #2 below.
See as well "Biomechanics of Advanced Tennis" by ITF
Majority of articles at this forum invoke explicitly or implicitly rules of biomechanics
to eliminate most obvios INCORRECT approaches.
2.however some rules of balance ,for example for forehand ,can be "violated" to some extent-see
the famous example of Vaidisova.
The question arises how far these rules can be violated
3.there are some known principles how to control ,say,bounce of a ball shipped
towards your oponent for a given surface.
Some tinkering is done to take into account for example item #3 above
4.Some trends to follow for serve are obvious in terms of speed of a ball served/delivered
see articles by Brian Gordon
See as well a post by myself (under the user name julian) at this forum about serve by Djokovic.
A lot of "tinkering" is limited in majority of sports by physical capabilites of a given player
and to some extent by quality of equipment which can be tinkered with as well.
If my comments are NOT clear I will try to expand later
julian usptapro 27873

https://www.julianmielniczuk.usptapro.com

If you need to send an E-mail to me
juliantennis@comcast.net

[lukman41985]

Sure, sure, of course biomechanics matter, but my point still stands.

Remember, my point is that the ball doesn't know any better...

You want to know what you're doing biomechanically because what you do biomechanically directly affects the ball--but let's see what's going on with the damn ball!

[uspta146749877]

Please expand your thread a bit

Sure, sure, of course biomechanics matter, but my point still stands.

Remember, my point is that the ball doesn't know any better...

You want to know what you're doing biomechanically because what you do biomechanically directly affects the ball--but let's see what's going on with the damn ball!

Hi,
could you expand your thread a bit,please?
It would help the conversation a bit