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  • don_budge
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    Lolita and the Hammer to Fall....Lady Mercy won't be home tonight

    Originally posted by hockeyscout View Post
    Yah, Kournikova was nice compared to the Bieber's and Cyrus' today! Good point. You know, what annoys me about Ana is the perception she didn't work hard. That kid worked her ass off. What I found interesting in her documentary is her saying "I wish I had more fun." You know, simple words, but so true.
    Well she sure made it look like fun! I liked Anna...who cares if she didn't make it as far as anyone else is concerned. She sure made it as far as she is concerned. Me too! Lolita...if looks could kill. Didn't have enough fun? Get a real job...having fun yet?

    You know what fun is? Petting your dog. Loving your kids. Loving your lover. Playing tennis. Living life and sucking every bit of fun out it that you can. No regrets. Puking your guts out for 30 hours and coming back to life with only one thing in mind. Get back to my job at the little club...on the court teaching people to play tennis. Love! That's what's fun! Fuck it. Lady Mercy won't be home tonight.

    But sure...look at what passes for greatness these days. The lack of depth is amazing. Take a look back in time a bit. Queen for instance. Freddie Mercury. 1984 no less. I love it! Just telling it...just knocking 'em dead...just killing it. Justin and what's her name. Who cares? How impossibly irrelevant? Mere distractions...like sports and sport personalities. This planet is full of an unprecedented arrogance...without even realizing how close it stands to the brink. Without realizing how close we stand for the "Hammer to Fall". Tow their line and play their game.




    "Hammer To Fall"

    Here we stand or here we fall
    History won't care at all
    Make the bed, light the light
    Lady Mercy won't be home tonight.

    You don't waste no time at all
    Don't hear the bell but you answer the call
    It comes to you as to us all
    We're just waiting
    For the hammer to fall

    Oh every night, and every day
    A little piece of you is falling away
    But lift your face, the Western Way -
    Build your muscles as your body decays.

    You don't waste no time at all
    Don't hear the bell but you answer the call
    It comes to you as to us all
    We're just waiting
    For the hammer to fall

    Tow the line and play their game
    Let the anaesthetic cover it all
    Till one day they call your name
    You know it's time for the Hammer to Fall.

    Rich or poor or famous for
    Your truth it's all the same
    Lock your door but rain is pouring
    Through your window pane
    Baby now your struggle's all vain.

    For we who grew up tall and proud
    In the shadow of the Mushroom Cloud
    Convinced our voices can't be heard
    We just wanna scream it louder and louder

    You don't waste no time at all
    Don't hear the bell but you answer the call
    It comes to you as to us all
    We're just waiting
    For the hammer to fall

    What the hell are we fighting for?
    Just surrender and it won't hurt at all
    You just got time to say your prayers
    While you're waiting for the Hammer to Fall.


    The Hammer fell for Monique on her dreams. It will fall for Trump too. Baby now your struggle's all in vain. That trophy wife of yours more than likely despises you at this point in time. His marriage is all about vanity. Much of his life is all about vanity. In the end...he puts his pants on one leg at a time. The Hammer will fall.

    The Hammer fell for me yesterday...fortunately I am getting up back on my feet. It knocked me for a loop. Head back up and I'm back in the game. Looking for the next train coming around the corner on a collision course. Waiting for the Hammer to fall. It fell on Freddie...he knew it was coming.
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  • hockeyscout
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    Originally posted by gzhpcu View Post
    Agree hockeyscout, just because she is Russian and good-looking, you can't put her into the stereotype image. I remember seeing her play in Roland Garros, seemed like a nice girl to me. Just look around and see how the celebrities today like Miley Cyrus....
    Yah, Kournikova was nice compared to the Bieber's and Cyrus' today! Good point. You know, what annoys me about Ana is the perception she didn't work hard. That kid worked her ass off. What I found interesting in her documentary is her saying "I wish I had more fun." You know, simple words, but so true.

    Its funny, the director of this tennis court got fired here in Sevastopol. Dumb decision. Old guy. Great coach, patient, positive and has that passion for his sport that's so important to me. If you're mentors love and respect the game, and the process, the kids will see it, learn from it, and steal it!

    Anyways this coach (Eugene) must be 80. He can really play, has that old man muscle and hits a hard ball. I asked him once, how the hell do you do it. He said, "Christ, I have to concentrate so much to hit a ball, of course I am good. I love tennis, and I know how to focus, and I will pass that on to your kid!"

    What's interesting is you never hear him EVER give a word of technical advise. He knows these words in English: "Loud. Aggressive. Wimbledon (instead of saying good, that's what he says to my kid) and MMMMMEEEE (a bad shot he says she's playing he plays the game, and laughs). And of course, mixed in is a bit of AAAAHHHHAAAA. Now he's out of a job, he charges $5 an hour (no joke, that is the coaching rate in small towns here), and I'll just let him take her to the court, give him some money to take her to movies, go visit his grand-kids and watch matches for the full day starting on the weekend. A great mentor, the two of them spent so much time watching matches, farting around, playing on the wall and doing next to nothing! He had no lessons, so he'd go and watch videos with her, play on the wall and all the rest, but what I found so interesting is how good some of these old guys are at keeping kids focused (almost like a kid watching a cartoon).

    That's what these kids like Kournikova, Bieber and Cryprus really needed. Older people with a bit of perspective, focus and experience.

    Now, I learned something interesting. This old man coaches the real young kids. I thought he did okay. Never thought about it. Well, the new guys they have at this place are starting to teach kids, it looks like chaos. Technique, technique, technique, long talks and you can just see the kids don't want to be there, however, the moms and dads are thinking their getting great value. The old coach could make coaching kids look so easy. Man, you sometimes don't know a real talent until you see it. His less was MORE if your thinking long term. He could make kids passionate about tennis.

    Anyways, like Ana Kournikova says, she wishes she had a bit more fun, and I found that to be a real nugget. By the way Ana Kornikova, she's got an eight year old brother Allan Kournikova, he's a golfer, and he looks like a big timer. Don Budge knows a few things about golfing, but man, this kid is just out of this world good. He's all over YouTube, and hopefully his talents will be nurtured, and the mom will get the right support staff around the kid. Man, this kids golf club looks like it's an extension of his hand. He's goooood.
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  • gzhpcu
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    Agree hockeyscout, just because she is Russian and good-looking, you can't put her into the stereotype image. I remember seeing her play in Roland Garros, seemed like a nice girl to me. Just look around and see how the celebrities today like Miley Cyrus....

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  • hockeyscout
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    Originally posted by GeoffWilliams View Post
    HOrnykova had two hockey players at once, both giving her millions. Looks aren't everything. They won't buy you a singles title. That's the nail on the Russian head. Or should I say, spoiled sexy hot devious cheating gorgeous stupid brat?
    Ah, come on now. I think the media kind of threw her under the bus. She's not a bad kid. American media certainly wasn't to interested in painting her in a nice light later in her career when injuries killed her. She worked eight hours a day on the courts in Moscow as a kid. Got all the way up to # 8 despite having terrible ankles that weren't corrected. Made the semi's at Wimbledon. That's a good career, and her endorsement were off the charts. It may have been all different if she had a woman like Coach Larissa around her from 10 - 22 years of age or parents like Martina's. Pretty girl, famous, older men being very inappropriate with her, photoshoot's no young woman should be doing and handlers not protecting her from the media. It's interesting how Sharapova was handled so much better, however, the dad Yuri and the mama probably put their foot down, and I am sure Lansdorf did well by the kid and taught her right (or else). Ana's not into drugs, doesn't drink, good kid and came through it all. You know, how did we all act when we were 13 to 20, and well, say you threw in some money, had Farrah Fawcett and Madonna chasing you, and a split up family, and no male influence, how it'd all turn out?

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  • GeoffWilliams
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    HOrnykova had two hockey players at once, both giving her millions. Looks aren't everything. They won't buy you a singles title. That's the nail on the Russian head. Or should I say, spoiled sexy hot devious cheating gorgeous stupid brat?

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  • hockeyscout
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    She was married to Fedorov in secret actually. That was the word going around at the time.

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  • don_budge
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    Anna Kournikova...her ankles

    Originally posted by hockeyscout View Post
    A great talent who didn't get the URGENT help in the one aspect of her game which needed the most attention. I actually think Ana Kournikova was the greatest success story of woman's tennis in her day managing to play as long as she did, and get to # 8 overall with her foot issues. It's a testament to how good her hands really were! By the way, you should here the Russian's talk about Kournikova, their convinced she would have been better if she stayed in Moscow, worked under their sports science model and spent more years with Larissa Preborazhenskaya. I think the Russian's would have sorted out the ankle issues, as they are the white masters of speed, and in my opinion the strokes were all ready part of her DNA before she arrived in America because she was trained under pretty rigid communist training systems, and with a hell of a coach, who said she loves Anna more than another student she ever had!


    Jiminy Glick is discussing Anna Kournikova with John McEnroe. Never mentions the ankle issues. She also had a preference for hockeyscout's or rather hockey players as she was seriously dating Detroit Red Wing Sergei Federov.

    Here's a great shot of those poor ankles...



    This girl had talent. I think we can all agree on that one thing alone...just for once. Oh...those Russians!
    Last edited by don_budge; 03-08-2014, 04:52 AM.

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  • hockeyscout
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    I just got to say. This part is classic.

    1:01, the coach Mike Depalmer, "I got to say, she's how old, (?) ... (Does not even know how old the kid is haha)


    Then the best one:

    "I gotta say I agree with Nick, he says she's the best 11 year old he's ever seen."

    At the same time he's shaking his head like no, no and no! Darned body language!

    You know what, she may have been the best at that age. Maybe THE GAME'S evolved. God, it must have! In a BIG way.

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  • hockeyscout
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    Link

    She's playing for herself!

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  • hockeyscout
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    Originally posted by don_budge View Post
    Not that "hot" at all. I've got an eye for these sort of things. Trust me. Maybe in the right light. Desperadoes...hyping a child. Pinning their own hopes and dreams on the little girl. More of the "barrybuss" syndrome. Just a different angle. A form of abuse. Another sign of decadence in society and decline in human values. We have Andre Agassi to thank for the warning..."Image is Everything". Oh really Andre...what about substance? The pioneer of the "curtain call". It was catchy wasn't it...all of the rest of the morons bought into it real quick. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga took it to another level with his athletic leaping and springing across the tennis court...the dancing German broad too! Jerks.
    Jesus Christ Don Budge, don't you listen!!!!! : Monique Viele made it quite clear at the 2:04 time frame, "I am playing for myself", the she repeated "I am playing for myself." Don't you get it Don, man, even I get it, and I am a farm boy from the north pole who can hardly read and wright, she's playing for herself! I don't know much about tennis, however, I do know athletics, and I just can't see "Wayne Gretzky" characteristics here, sorry. Daddy and mommy don't look like they could step into a pro sport and inflict some pain. I'm at a bit of a loss seeing it? Possibly her work-ethic, maturity and coachability factors were off the charts.

    I know I will get blasted off this board for saying this, but, the best 10 year old I've EVER seen on video is Ana Kournikova's. Her hand eye coordination was on par with Gretzky's. However, her feet almost make me want to cry like a baby. It would have been so easy to fix her knifing and supination issues which were BAD! And, you could see at 14, the neurology was worse. Then at 16 or so, it all broke down, hell, maybe even earlier. Tragic. It's not fun to watch a great stallion play in pain. A great talent who didn't get the URGENT help in the one aspect of her game which needed the most attention. I actually think Ana Kournikova was the greatest success story of woman's tennis in her day managing to play as long as she did, and get to # 8 overall with her foot issues. It's a testament to how good her hands really were! By the way, you should here the Russian's talk about Kournikova, their convinced she would have been better if she stayed in Moscow, worked under their sports science model and spent more years with Larissa Preborazhenskaya. I think the Russian's would have sorted out the ankle issues, as they are the white masters of speed, and in my opinion the strokes were all ready part of her DNA before she arrived in America because she was trained under pretty rigid communist training systems, and with a hell of a coach, who said she loves Anna more than another student she ever had!

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  • don_budge
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    Not just you...hot she's not!

    Originally posted by hockeyscout View Post
    Is it just me, however, I do not go "holy shit" when I look at Monique Viele. It's a brief clip but nothing made me go, wow, that kids a star! ????
    Not that "hot" at all. I've got an eye for these sort of things. Trust me. Maybe in the right light she becomes star quality. Desperadoes...hyping a child. Pinning their own hopes and dreams on the little girl. More of the "barrybuss" syndrome. Just a different angle. A form of abuse. Another sign of decadence in society and decline in human values.

    We have Andre Agassi to thank for the warning..."Image is Everything". Oh really Andre...what about substance? The pioneer of the "curtain call". It was catchy wasn't it...all of the rest of the morons bought into it real quick. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga took it to another level with his athletic leaping and springing across the tennis court...the dancing German broad too! Jerks.
    Last edited by don_budge; 03-08-2014, 02:48 AM. Reason: for clarity's sake...

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  • hockeyscout
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    By the way ...

    Is it just me, however, I do not go "holy shit" when I look at Monique Viele. It's a brief clip but nothing made me go, wow, that kids a star! ????

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  • hockeyscout
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    Wonderful to see Nick Bolletieri weighing in on the video that I posted. I would love to see him and President Obama yapping at each other. Come to think of it...throw in Donald Trump in the same room too. A real ego-fest. A couple of snake oil salesmen talking a lot and saying nothing. Purely for the love of money. Sports and politics mirroring each other.Come to think of it...tennis is sort of a strange saga in itself. Why would character matter anymore in tennis when it is so dollar driven than it would in politics? Because it's sports? Sports and politics...strange bedfellows indeed.[/QUOTE]

    When I was a kid I would pay $100 at the start of the year to play. Then, at the end of the year we'd get a refund! Hockey is just as bad, in 25 years it's become a rich man's sport. I've had so many people tell me it takes "truckload" of money to develop a children in whatever field their interested in, and that's very sad. I've really got to respect the parents like the Gretzky's and Navratilova's who never sold out to the system, and did their own thing when "everyone else" was doing what they did, an attempting to pressure them into their "programs."

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  • bottle
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    Like this except for the birther part. I see Barack Obama as honest but honestly stupid for not immediately distancing himself far from George W. Bush and the Republicans on matters of American security and war. His Nobel Acceptance Speech was the worst there ever has been. I wonder if he isn't just one scared cat. But the opposition! What morons! It would take them five minutes to do Barack Obama completely in ("Obomber" at Common Dreams) if they could only turn their "minds" to any matter of substance. No minds or substance anywhere-- that is the problem.

    Nina Kruscheva (Krushchev's grand-daughter) on the Ukraine. Shut up and give up the Crimean Peninsula. It is a pawn but not a poisoned one. Or doesn't one want to hold on to one's bigger pieces? And yeah, tennis and chess and life are exactly the same.
    Last edited by bottle; 03-07-2014, 09:00 AM.

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  • don_budge
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    Character, Politics and Tennis

    Originally posted by bottle View Post
    Character matters in tennis. Every bit of adulation in this first-part article for the birther-brain Donald Trump, no matter from whom, is therefore the kiss of death.
    Originally posted by bottle View Post
    birdbrain. Delusional. Unconnected to real world. Thinks Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii. And thinks people should constantly obsess about shit like this instead of Obama's drones and American exceptionalism and hypocrisy such as our precipitated, foolish wars and tortures and occupations around the world and then get all huffy about some little Putinish ploy which he will soon retract which the western world will then consider its personal victory. I do think that Gary Kasparov, however, a guy who knows something about logic, is quite right when he says that Putin is a lousy chess player since he doesn't play by the rules. Compared to Obama, Putin and Kasparov, however, the thin-vomit-haired birther-brain along with McCain, Graham, Cruz, Walker, Issa, Priebus, Ryan, Snyder, Palin, Guliani, Ingram, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly and far too many others to mention are too incapacitated for public service or any work force and belong in mental institutions paid for out of their trust funds.
    Well...it has the makings of a brilliant discussion. I knew what a "birther" is from obsessive reading that I have done the past 13 years since September 11, 2001. Geopolitics is another "hobby" of mine. Disseminating the plausible truth from the information machine is a full time job in itself.

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    Donald Rumsfeld came out just a few days after the big one and said that the USA would need to form a department of disinformation to combat the terrorist organizations around the world but he came back the next day or two and said that it wouldn't be necessary...or doable.

    It was the last of anything believable at any rate. I mean...what is it going to be. Which side of the mouth should we believe. But with regards to President Oblabla...he who talks a lot and says absolutely nothing, what are we to believe about him. He supposedly wrote two autobiographical books about himself that the public took to heart and bet the farm on. The problem is...what if it was all a fairy tale? Afterall...they don't let you write your own letter of recommendation when you are applying for a job...do they? People tend to lie or speak in truthiness when they talk about themselves. Particularly those devoting their lives to the acquisition of power and money. Men such as Obama, Trump and others to be named later.

    There are so many dubious stories about this mystery man who came out of nowhere to become the president of the most powerful country in the world that there is certainly reason to doubt any supposed claim about the reality of who he is. Why not question his birthplace? Is that not a valid question? What about his drug use and rest of his past? Wasn't he vetted? Apparently not. He just may have been installed. These are strange times. Strange days indeed.

    John McCain vs. Barrack Obama. That is a choice? What kind of low level choice is that for the most important job in the country? Observing the election process from a foreign country was one of the most interesting experiences of my life. Real comic relief...except it wasn't funny the way that a seemingly compassionate man such as Ron Paul was marginalized by the media. By the machine.

    Listening to this charlatan it was dreadfully obvious that he is no more believable than Donald Trump. They are actually cut from the very same cloth. In fact...both political parties are cut from the same cloth and they have been "incorporated" into the United States government. Obama needs to take a lie detector test in front of the American people administered by someone credible...then we shall see what we shall see. Perhaps Ron Paul. The government does not reflect the will of the sheeple. If it does reflect the will of the people...then we are all in trouble. Let's face it...we are in trouble anyways. Either way.

    This story that Rick is spinning is bound to a really good one. It would be interesting to hear multiple sides of this story...much as the alleged "Jim Pierce" was weighing in on the article. This business of tennis and children has its down side as I have been very critical of teaching children the professional tennis game. It is a sickening sign to how low the level of society has sunk and it is so unfortunate that there are those that will exploit children and young people for the love of money or what is loosely thought to be glory these days. It is really murky...almost as murky as Oblabla's claims of transparency.

    Wonderful to see Nick Bolletieri weighing in on the video that I posted. I would love to see him and President Obama yapping at each other. Come to think of it...throw in Donald Trump in the same room too. A real ego-fest. A couple of snake oil salesmen talking a lot and saying nothing. Purely for the love of money. Sports and politics mirroring each other.

    Come to think of it...tennis is sort of a strange saga in itself. Why would character matter anymore in tennis when it is so dollar driven than it would in politics? Because it's sports? Sports and politics...strange bedfellows indeed.
    Last edited by don_budge; 03-07-2014, 02:21 AM. Reason: for clarity's sake...

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