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  • doctorhl
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    flaflat: In my experience the value of the extreme slice, although it is harder to time, is its low bounce and more importantly, subsequent effect of throwing off the timing of the opponent. “ Further, since both the vertical and horizontal speed of the ball are decreased, the overall speed of the ball is also decreased”. This change of speed is what makes it so effective.

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  • johnyandell
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    Peter,
    Thanks for the feedback. Glad you are liking the series.

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  • tta123
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    If I were editing your work I would add that the racquet path is related to the trajectory of the ball that is being hit. The reason that the racquet path is more vertically down is that the path of the ball received is more upwards. You can see that in the clip of KR that you used. The ball he is hitting in the clip is dropping and so his racquet path is more horizontal. Other than this I lover these video lessons that you create and I think with a little more detail you could take many of them to another level.

    Sincerely

    Peter C

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  • samuroo
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    When a ball with underspin impacts the ground, the ball skids across the surface of the court, and the court exerts a kinetic friction force on the ball in direction opposite that of the overall horizontal motion of the ball. Since the ball has backward rotation, the kinetic friction force must act for a longer period of time on the ball before it will start rotating forward. This increases the net friction force on the ball and reduces its horizontal speed by a greater amount than flat and topspin shots. As a result the ratio of vertical speed to horizontal speed of the ball is higher after the bounce than before it. Thus the ball leaves the ground with an angle greater than its angle of incident. Further, since both the vertical and horizontal speed of the ball are decreased, the overall speed of the ball is also decreased.

    Is this wrong?

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  • johnyandell
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    Good question! The ball will actually stay lower. But as the series say classic slice is better for the majority on the majority of balls!

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  • samuroo
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    Sorry if this is a noob question, but what is the benefit of an extreme slice? The ball seems to float a little more. Swinging so steeply makes it difficult to time. Won't the added spin also make the ball check up more after the bounce? Is the added spin rate really worth it?

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  • johnyandell
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    Thank you!

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  • jthb1021
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    As always I love the checkpoints! Clear concise and solid. Thanks John

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  • doctorhl
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    I love the checkpoints on the extreme slice. I could have used this shot 40 years ago. The better amateur players at that time came close to duplicating the modern penetrating, offensive extreme slice. This was just before the
    post Borg era when racket technology and teaching methods enabled the use of heavy topspin backhands at the amateur level.

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