Interactive Forum December 2015 Nick Kyrgios Forehand

[stroke]

Sock's looks much more extreme to me in terms of the amount of flip, whippiness. I say this because i generally assess this by the position of the arm and racquet at the point the racquet is pulled. (change of direction, flip) If you compare the positions of the two at this point, Jack has much further to go (rotation of the arm) to get the butt cap leading.

Just my 02 cents, could be wrong.

Nick's fh flip does not seem as violent as Jack's to me either. One other thing, his arm seems to tend be more bent than Jack's. They both have pretty strong semi western grips, which I think does not lend well itself toward a Nadal/Fed/Verdasco type straight arm extension at contact, but Nick seems more cramped at contact overall than Jack. Also, just after contact, Nick does not seem to have as pronounced turnover with the tip of the racquet as Jack. Just after contact(using frame by frame clicks), I think one can see that Nick tends to turn the racquet over more with his whole arm, less snap that Jack.

[kfriedman]

kfriedman

We need to see the bigger picture (GAME SITUATION) to properly and more accurately assess the stroke. If we simply look at his forehand as it appears in this clip, it's got a long tail ...not the short power forehand we see mostly from Fed. BUT, we know the pros demonstrate numerous variations in each stroke based on the game situation. For example, Nick could be hitting a passing shot or wide angle that would require him to wiper excessively to make this shot dip quickly on his opponent.

[10splayer]

Sock's looks much more extreme to me in terms of the amount of flip, whippiness. I say this because i generally assess this by the position of the arm and racquet at the point the racquet is pulled. (change of direction, flip) If you compare the positions of the two at this point, Jack has much further to go (rotation of the arm) to get the butt cap leading.

Just my 02 cents, could be wrong.

[stotty]

Borg....US Open

Nick Kyrgios Forehand

If you thought Jack Sock's forehand was extreme or even bizarre, just check out Nick Krygios. Is this an anomaly or the future of the game? Remember Tony Trabert suggested Bjorn Borg hit less topspin when interviewing him--right after Borg had won the U.S. Open!

So what are we seeing? And what does it mean? A higher take back but with an extreme forward pointing racket tip like Sock and that gigantic circular flip. Also a tendency for a short, low, extreme wiper finish.

Or do you see something different? And what about that meaning part?

Borg didn't win the US Open...

I may have changed my mind about racket tips pointing forwards. I used to consider it a no-no, but some players have their rackets pointing forwards for a significant part of their backswing and get away with it.

The significant thing I notice is how high he lifts his right elbow as he goes into his backswing. It looks like he lifts it higher than his shoulder line.

[johnyandell]

Nick Kyrgios Forehand

If you thought Jack Sock's forehand was extreme or even bizarre, just check out Nick Krygios. Is this an anomaly or the future of the game? Remember Tony Trabert suggested Bjorn Borg hit less topspin when interviewing him--right after Borg had won the U.S. Open!

So what are we seeing? And what does it mean? A higher take back but with an extreme forward pointing racket tip like Sock and that gigantic circular flip. Also a tendency for a short, low, extreme wiper finish.

Or do you see something different? And what about that meaning part?