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  • #16
    I personally would say all these players I mentioned just have some version of a western grip with their palm pretty much facing up(if they were to open their hand) at contact. Anything past that is in the Hawaiian category. I am not sure what you mean by extreme western grip. Kohlschreiber to me is a 30's player with a western grip but it could be classified as a strong semi western I guess.
    Last edited by stroke; 06-24-2019, 01:27 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by stroke View Post
      I personally would say all these players I mentioned just have some version of a western grip with their palm pretty much facing up(if they were to open their hand) at contact. Anything past that is in the Hawaiian category. I am not sure what you mean by extreme western grip. Kohlschreiber to me is a 30's player with a western grip but it could be classified as a strong semi western I guess.
      Actually, John has a couple of articles on the topic. He calls it the extreme half western.

      https://www.tennisplayer.net/members...ons_part2.html

      He also notes that a modified eastern grip is the one used by Federer.

      Each of these has tradeoffs but as John notes the more western the grip the harder it is to hit on the rise and to attack.

      This eventually becomes a liability.

      I also wonder if Rafa has made his grip less extreme over time.

      John, Is Rafa's grip less extreme no that back when you wrote your grip articles.

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      • #18
        Copy, appropriate article. I would say Kohl is in a half western.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by nytennisaddict View Post

          nice. i'm a canon guy myself... wwas considering the 300f2.8 and 400f2.8 when my kids' were playing soccer, but then they wanted me to coach instead.... can't justify the cost for anything else.... but those were great pics. i'll have to settle for using my 70-200f2.8+1.4x extender on 7d body.
          Sorry to be slow responding . The forum isn't sending me updates the way it used to. Yeah, those monster lenses are uber expensive. I rent them. No way I can justify a lens the price of a Yugo to use occasionally. The other advantage of renting is that I can try different things. For the San Jose MSVC WTA I'm renting a newish 500 m FL, much slower than what I like to use, but the weight and length of a 70-200 with the fresnel lens. Might even be too long, but it will give a different perspective. Downside of renting is one never develops the physical skill, familiarity with the equipment. Sort of using a new tennis racket every time on court <g>. Soccer is tough to photograph. Players can be anywhere from right on top of you to the far end. Good luck coaching soccer. Might want to wear protective gear these days <g>

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          • #20
            Arturo,
            Rafa could be slightly less extreme now or not...haven't filmed him in a couple of years.

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