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  • Developing Touch: Drop Shots

    Let's get your thoughts on Dave Hagler's article, "Developing Touch: Drop Shots"

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    Link?

    J

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    • #3
      Coming tonight! Little server glitch.

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      • #4
        Ah, read it this morning.

        Would have like a little more on methods for developing it.

        We have mini tennis tournaments, play double touch, triples 3-5 passes, the game where you rest the ball on the net cord and whack it, and we will do days where you have to slice every ball.

        I would say most of our boys have decent touch, and most of our girls do not.

        If you leave the boys alone for 2 minutes they will start playing these stupid games and try to hit crazy shots and that's where they develop touch. In our group trainings I make sure to leave time to be creative, and just fool around. All soccer players can do the crazy ball tricks and those skills were developed fooling around in down time (actually again, more the guys) and the same with tennis players bouncing the ball on the edge of the frame, trying to hit drop shots that spin back over the net, etc.

        I never had great touch as a player, but now as a coach I am like a wizard because I practice all day in lessons.

        Would love to hear what anyone else does because I am not really happy with how our program is doing in the touch department, they are a little too mechanical and I think the soft hands and feel will carry over to the serve as well.

        J

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        • #5
          Great article. As a club level player on hard courts, I never really got to practice the spin drop shot with its steep angle and very limited forward portion of the follow-through because the opponent’s topspin rates were too low. So, feel drop shots were more in order. However, the feel drop shots tend to “Telegraph” the shot and a club level opponent often has no need to deep behind the baseline. So preparation deception is key. If your opponent is not on their heels in anticipation of one hitting a consistently hard hit ball, it becomes a tough shot to pull off.

          Developing juniors(and their coaches) often give up on the dropshot because of blaming most of the player’s shot failure on the technique of the forward swing. 1.Court location of body at contact 2.preparation deception, 3.recognition of speed or spin of incoming ball in the air 4.Location of opponent 5. Shot technique 6. Incoming Bounce speed and height of soft versus hard courts....... These are all variables that must be considered and weighed. Any drills designed for dropshots should try to factor in all of these variables. The player should eventually figure out which variables require more emphasis to better process the source(s) of any missed shot. The “embarrassment” factor also plays a part in attitude toward this shot for some people.

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          • #6
            J011Roger - just wait and there is a lot to come that will show many of the same games / drills you describe and some others as well. It sounds like almost all of this will be familiar to you but I suspect there will be something you haven't seen or tried that will help your players. Thanks - Dave

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DavidLHagler View Post
              J011Roger - just wait and there is a lot to come that will show many of the same games / drills you describe and some others as well. It sounds like almost all of this will be familiar to you but I suspect there will be something you haven't seen or tried that will help your players. Thanks - Dave
              Awesome, looking forward to it. I am going to test out your recommendation of shifting grips today and try to make some teenagers cry.

              J

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              • #8
                Nice article. I would also mention that drop shot spin will have more acceleration (especially on the bh side). Also the bh side will much more often use the drop shot spin flavor in comparison to the fh side because there is a lot more range of motion since your using only your front arm and have a lot more room to swing across. A lot more backspin and probably especially sidespin can be produced on the bh drop shot spin versus the fh drop shot spin.

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                • #9
                  Roger what is triples 3-5 passes?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jeremy93 View Post
                    Roger what is triples 3-5 passes?
                    3 players on a side, no power shots, you pass the ball at least 3 but not more than 5 times before you hit it to the other team, like volleyball.

                    We don't do it often, but it's fun in camps especially when the teens play with the younger kids.

                    We mostly do double touch with the older ones.

                    J

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DavidLHagler View Post
                      J011Roger - just wait and there is a lot to come that will show many of the same games / drills you describe and some others as well. It sounds like almost all of this will be familiar to you but I suspect there will be something you haven't seen or tried that will help your players. Thanks - Dave
                      Yesterday we played king of the court, with one overhand serve, if the second bounce of your shot was outside of the lines of the singles court it was out.

                      Made for some fun points. The kids aren't very good at burying the slice so it made for long points.

                      J

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                      • #12
                        This I feel is just the tip of the iceberg from Coach Hagler. So critical for players to develop touch, not just for the forecourt area, but for when things get tight, your racquet and ball control don't have to. All my players (whether they like it or not) play mini-tennis and multiple variations of it.
                        It's also how I was discovered by Martina Hingis. She saw me teach and practice mini-tennis and volleys with my players and inquired to one of the lead coaches about me. Next thing I know I was practicing with Hingis the next morning. No other players or coaches liked to practice with Martina because she would start with 30-40 minutes of touch shots and mini-tennis. I didn't mind and was rewarded.

                        Kyle LaCroix USPTA, PTR
                        Delray Beach
                        SETS Consulting

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                        • #13
                          Thanks Roger. I like it

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                          • #14
                            Kyle I would love to hear your mini tennis variations that you do if you don’t mind. Thanks!

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                            • #15
                              But Kyle who won in mini tennis between you and Martina?

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